Comments on: Nao Somos Racistas http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html black looks Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:32:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Sokari http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98492 Sokari Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:07:30 +0000 http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98492 Midnight @ Sorry as usual did not explain myself - yes i meant the imagery on the book would have been displayed in the 1950s and yes he speaks way beyond this period - Midnight @ Sorry as usual did not explain myself - yes i meant the imagery on the book would have been displayed in the 1950s and yes he speaks way beyond this period -

]]> By: Midnight http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98490 Midnight Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:39:13 +0000 http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98490 Sokari : Okay the context is much clearer now. (Fanon to me speaks beyond 1952. When i read it in the 80s it was something i could relate to - note that i am white but from non-colonial national origins, and from very mixed parental roots - the loss of identity, and its misappropriation is something i can understand. During Fanon's time such imagery was a part of popular culture (and as we can see some of it has carried over to the modern day e.g. banania...), so he lived in the middle of such imagery, and clearly it played a part in the formation of his theses of societal indictment. So I think its important to have such images available to better understand where he came from, since not everyone is clued up on history/background. But putting them on the cover, i agree, is a bad idea) Sokari :
Okay the context is much clearer now.

(Fanon to me speaks beyond 1952. When i read it in the 80s it was something i could relate to - note that i am white but from non-colonial national origins, and from very mixed parental roots - the loss of identity, and its misappropriation is something i can understand.

During Fanon’s time such imagery was a part of popular culture (and as we can see some of it has carried over to the modern day e.g. banania…), so he lived in the middle of such imagery, and clearly it played a part in the formation of his theses of societal indictment.

So I think its important to have such images available to better understand where he came from, since not everyone is clued up on history/background.
But putting them on the cover, i agree, is a bad idea)

]]> By: Sokari http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98472 Sokari Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:40:31 +0000 http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98472 Ana @ Yes I hear all the time about Brazilians not wanting to deal with race and Black people from all over South and central America claiming they are not Black like Ronaldo has done - which in it's self is proof of the very racism they are denying. As long as they continue to do so things will not change. The Ronaldo's of this world could make a positive impact if they faced up to the reality - I mean does he really see any difference between himself and Thierry Henry (who has led the Kick Racism out of Football campaign in Europe in England and now Europe.)? He must be a complete fool if he does! Ana @ Yes I hear all the time about Brazilians not wanting to deal with race and Black people from all over South and central America claiming they are not Black like Ronaldo has done - which in it’s self is proof of the very racism they are denying. As long as they continue to do so things will not change. The Ronaldo’s of this world could make a positive impact if they faced up to the reality - I mean does he really see any difference between himself and Thierry Henry (who has led the Kick Racism out of Football campaign in Europe in England and now Europe.)? He must be a complete fool if he does!

]]> By: Ana http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98470 Ana Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:42 +0000 http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98470 I made that statement because I am familiar with Afro Brazilians. They have a tendency to dismiss racism as classism.That most of the black and brown are poor,and no one has been able to give a valid explanation, is the most important question. I know very well that there is a movement starting over there for equal rights for blacks. I believe they were starting to push a bill similar to affirmative action. But some whites and blacks were saying that it is racist. There is an entire history over there at dismissing racism. Brazilians are famous for saying "we are not racists".Even foolish Ronaldo made a comment in a European newspaper that he is not black. Brazil is a very complicated society with black folks even dismissing their own race. The movement to end racism over there has to start from within first, and not from outside. Change is on the way.I think there is a black tv station ; many black magazines with folks in the past who would have died before they claim blackness, and strong black activism across Brazil. Sokari:I agree with you, those disgusting stereotypical pictures are unacceptable any where and we must fight to defend the dignity of black people. Saludos. I made that statement because I am familiar with Afro Brazilians. They have a tendency to dismiss racism as classism.That most of the black and brown are poor,and no one has been able to give a valid explanation, is the most important question.
I know very well that there is a movement starting over there for equal rights for blacks. I believe they were starting to push a bill similar to affirmative action. But some whites and blacks were saying that it is racist. There is an entire history over there at dismissing racism. Brazilians are famous for saying “we are not racists”.Even foolish Ronaldo made a comment in a European newspaper that he is not black. Brazil is a very complicated society with black folks even dismissing their own race. The movement to end racism over there has to start from within first, and not from outside.
Change is on the way.I think there is a black tv station ; many black magazines with folks in the past who would have died before they claim blackness, and strong black activism across Brazil.

Sokari:I agree with you, those disgusting stereotypical pictures are unacceptable any where and we must fight to defend the dignity of black people.

Saludos.

]]> By: Sokari http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98468 Sokari Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:24:49 +0000 http://www.blacklooks.org/2008/04/nao_somos_racistas.html#comment-98468 Midnight @ The story about the book was sent to me by a Congolese friend who teaches at a university in Sao Paulo and from what he says there is a great deal of objection from AfroBrazilians over the book cover. I don't see the images as being valid on any level and certainly not appropriate for Black Skins White Masks which was published in 1952. There is no justification for publishing these images. Possibly the one good thing to come out of this is that it has introduced a serious debate on race/racism in the country at least in academic circles. Ana @It's a book cover :) Midnight @ The story about the book was sent to me by a Congolese friend who teaches at a university in Sao Paulo and from what he says there is a great deal of objection from AfroBrazilians over the book cover.

I don’t see the images as being valid on any level and certainly not appropriate for Black Skins White Masks which was published in 1952. There is no justification for publishing these images.

Possibly the one good thing to come out of this is that it has introduced a serious debate on race/racism in the country at least in academic circles.

Ana @It’s a book cover :)

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