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		<title>By: anna university vice chancellor</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-86949</link>
		<dc:creator>anna university vice chancellor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;anna university vice chancellor...&lt;/strong&gt;

Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts !...</description>
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<p>Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts !&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Live Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-80643</link>
		<dc:creator>Live Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Live Journal...&lt;/strong&gt;

I couldn&#039;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting...</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: &#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Incremental infrastructure, or how mobile phones might wire Africa</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-58079</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; Incremental infrastructure, or how mobile phones might wire Africa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] second question is getting a workout as a wide range of commentators respond to the Bono-edited Africa edition of Vanity Fair. Several writers have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] second question is getting a workout as a wide range of commentators respond to the Bono-edited Africa edition of Vanity Fair. Several writers have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stillhaventfound.org &#187; Occasional Links 52</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-55328</link>
		<dc:creator>stillhaventfound.org &#187; Occasional Links 52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] negative response to Vanity Fair&#8217;s Africa issue which was guest-edited by Bono - e.g. here, here and here, though there&#8217;s a more positive take of the whole thing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] negative response to Vanity Fair&#8217;s Africa issue which was guest-edited by Bono &#8211; e.g. here, here and here, though there&#8217;s a more positive take of the whole thing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On Bono, Vanity Fair and paternalism in foreign aid &#171; Ramblings of an African Geek</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-54377</link>
		<dc:creator>On Bono, Vanity Fair and paternalism in foreign aid &#171; Ramblings of an African Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] OLPC program to paternalism. What really got me going though, was this series of posts by Ethan, Sokari and the Afromusing blog on Bono&#8217;s Vanity Fair issue. Kameelah at Black Looks writes another [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] OLPC program to paternalism. What really got me going though, was this series of posts by Ethan, Sokari and the Afromusing blog on Bono&#8217;s Vanity Fair issue. Kameelah at Black Looks writes another [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gillian</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-54278</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me rejeceted? I didn&#039;t feel that.

I thought YOU were expressing your disappointment/anger at being overlooked at the G8 meeting. I can see your point when you say -- &quot;The mere fact that this man has more power to speak for Africa than our own leaders should seriously concern Africans&quot;. I see that he has a lot of power in the Western world. Does he have the same power in Africa? Where are the forums where Africans feel they are able to speak for themselves.

I am trying to listen. It seems I&#039;m not very good at it in your eyes. 

I do hear many voices, many voices. Often they call for contradictory things. At the TED conference Madame Okonjo-Iweala told her own story  about a doctor saving her sister’s life - “When someone is saving a life, you don’t care that it’s aid - you want the person to be alive.”

Perhaps there is a question of scale here -- while someone can be very grateful for help at the individual level, they may have other thoughts about help given on a larger scale. 

So, Sokari, perhaps I can respect your wish for independence while still offering my help to those who seek it. If I can give my help in a way that does not foster dependence, so much the better. And if I can give my help without carrying a patronising paternalism, so much the better. Is it possible?

On another note, some of the things I DO get angry with are  -- the tilted trade system run by the rich countries to their own advantage; and loans to people/countries that don&#039;t have the means to repay. 

Thank you for providing this forum for exchange and understanding... it helps all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me rejeceted? I didn&#8217;t feel that.</p>
<p>I thought YOU were expressing your disappointment/anger at being overlooked at the G8 meeting. I can see your point when you say &#8212; &#8220;The mere fact that this man has more power to speak for Africa than our own leaders should seriously concern Africans&#8221;. I see that he has a lot of power in the Western world. Does he have the same power in Africa? Where are the forums where Africans feel they are able to speak for themselves.</p>
<p>I am trying to listen. It seems I&#8217;m not very good at it in your eyes. </p>
<p>I do hear many voices, many voices. Often they call for contradictory things. At the TED conference Madame Okonjo-Iweala told her own story  about a doctor saving her sister’s life &#8211; “When someone is saving a life, you don’t care that it’s aid &#8211; you want the person to be alive.”</p>
<p>Perhaps there is a question of scale here &#8212; while someone can be very grateful for help at the individual level, they may have other thoughts about help given on a larger scale. </p>
<p>So, Sokari, perhaps I can respect your wish for independence while still offering my help to those who seek it. If I can give my help in a way that does not foster dependence, so much the better. And if I can give my help without carrying a patronising paternalism, so much the better. Is it possible?</p>
<p>On another note, some of the things I DO get angry with are  &#8212; the tilted trade system run by the rich countries to their own advantage; and loans to people/countries that don&#8217;t have the means to repay. </p>
<p>Thank you for providing this forum for exchange and understanding&#8230; it helps all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sokari</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-53315</link>
		<dc:creator>Sokari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gillian@ In your rush of anger at being rejected you completely miss the point of both my post and Kameelah&#039;s follow up. 

Whatever reward you or they seek, I do not want it; I do not want your charity, your money or labour,  and the patronising paternalism that goes with it; I do not want you to speak for me as I can speak for myself; What you could do instead is to open your eyes, change your ways of thinking about me and most of all listen to what I have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gillian@ In your rush of anger at being rejected you completely miss the point of both my post and Kameelah&#8217;s follow up. </p>
<p>Whatever reward you or they seek, I do not want it; I do not want your charity, your money or labour,  and the patronising paternalism that goes with it; I do not want you to speak for me as I can speak for myself; What you could do instead is to open your eyes, change your ways of thinking about me and most of all listen to what I have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Gillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... all those rich folks should just shut up and go play golf. Best if they  ignore the 99% who aren&#039;t as rich and glamorous as them.

Too bad that they&#039;re trying to help. Too bad that they&#039;re not perfect at helping. Too bad they don&#039;t just quietly give their money away and join the ranks of the 99%.

Too bad you don&#039;t suggest ways they could be more effective, instead of just fuming at their money and power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; all those rich folks should just shut up and go play golf. Best if they  ignore the 99% who aren&#8217;t as rich and glamorous as them.</p>
<p>Too bad that they&#8217;re trying to help. Too bad that they&#8217;re not perfect at helping. Too bad they don&#8217;t just quietly give their money away and join the ranks of the 99%.</p>
<p>Too bad you don&#8217;t suggest ways they could be more effective, instead of just fuming at their money and power.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Looks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Looks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also, check me at: kameelahwrites This is a follow-up post to Sokari&#8217;s &#8216;Faking Africa and Stories of Vanity&#8216; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also, check me at: kameelahwrites This is a follow-up post to Sokari&#8217;s &#8216;Faking Africa and Stories of Vanity&#8216; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sokari</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/06/faking_africa_the_beeb.html#comment-52252</link>
		<dc:creator>Sokari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethan@ I will be watching for his contribution as the G9th member - I am sure he is wealthier than Gabon and Burkina Faso! 

I must agree I don&#039;t see the analogy with post WW2 Germany. I understand he also laid some rather spurious claims to Irish connections with Morocco - maybe he is working his way down the continent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethan@ I will be watching for his contribution as the G9th member &#8211; I am sure he is wealthier than Gabon and Burkina Faso! </p>
<p>I must agree I don&#8217;t see the analogy with post WW2 Germany. I understand he also laid some rather spurious claims to Irish connections with Morocco &#8211; maybe he is working his way down the continent!</p>
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