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		<title>By: Delux</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2006/11/you_are_a_black_man_-_you_have_to_leave.html#comment-6462</link>
		<dc:creator>Delux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Everything about the prof’s looks and demeanor was very uncharacteristic of a guest at that hotel.&lt;/i&gt; 

Puh-&lt;i&gt;lease&lt;/i&gt;. &quot;Black Man in Canada&quot; clearly has never actually *been* to San Francisco and seen what passes for fashionable dress or ritzy hotel demeanor there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Everything about the prof’s looks and demeanor was very uncharacteristic of a guest at that hotel.</i> </p>
<p>Puh-<i>lease</i>. &#8220;Black Man in Canada&#8221; clearly has never actually *been* to San Francisco and seen what passes for fashionable dress or ritzy hotel demeanor there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Changeseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2006/11/you_are_a_black_man_-_you_have_to_leave.html#comment-6338</link>
		<dc:creator>Changeseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 01:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless I missed it somehow, no one raised the obvious point about &quot;appearance&quot;: if the Professor had been &quot;White,&quot; we would not be discussing this matter because it would never have happened, no matter how he looked.  The idea that anyone would presume or suggest that all the guests of any &quot;high class&quot; hotel in the U.S. look a certain way at all times is ludicrous!  People with money are often very unconcerned about their appearance--because (as we say in the States) &quot;they&#039;ve got it like that&quot; (meaning they don&#039;t have to care).

At the very least, no matter how disheveled the Professor looked, if he had been &quot;White,&quot; even if he was approached, the first communication would have been a simple question and very respectful: &quot;Are you, sir, a guest of our hotel?&quot;  No challenge if the answer was &quot;yes.&quot;  And &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;definitely&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, no trip to the registration desk.  (He is hardly the first professor not to satisfy a G.Q.-standard, and he was after all, sitting in the sun reading the paper, not appearing for the press or something.)

The bottom line is that the whole incident was about race--not about class and, most assuredly, not about appearance.  Which is why it was so unconscionable and indefensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless I missed it somehow, no one raised the obvious point about &#8220;appearance&#8221;: if the Professor had been &#8220;White,&#8221; we would not be discussing this matter because it would never have happened, no matter how he looked.  The idea that anyone would presume or suggest that all the guests of any &#8220;high class&#8221; hotel in the U.S. look a certain way at all times is ludicrous!  People with money are often very unconcerned about their appearance&#8211;because (as we say in the States) &#8220;they&#8217;ve got it like that&#8221; (meaning they don&#8217;t have to care).</p>
<p>At the very least, no matter how disheveled the Professor looked, if he had been &#8220;White,&#8221; even if he was approached, the first communication would have been a simple question and very respectful: &#8220;Are you, sir, a guest of our hotel?&#8221;  No challenge if the answer was &#8220;yes.&#8221;  And <b><i>definitely</i></b>, no trip to the registration desk.  (He is hardly the first professor not to satisfy a G.Q.-standard, and he was after all, sitting in the sun reading the paper, not appearing for the press or something.)</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the whole incident was about race&#8211;not about class and, most assuredly, not about appearance.  Which is why it was so unconscionable and indefensible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2006/11/you_are_a_black_man_-_you_have_to_leave.html#comment-6239</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say thank you for this site.  I had not heard about this until an NPR podcast today.  And I live in the Bay Area.  Just wanted you to know how this message is still traveling and hope it continues.  I am sending it to family and friends.

- 24 year-old Caucasian in a multi-racial family</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say thank you for this site.  I had not heard about this until an NPR podcast today.  And I live in the Bay Area.  Just wanted you to know how this message is still traveling and hope it continues.  I am sending it to family and friends.</p>
<p>- 24 year-old Caucasian in a multi-racial family</p>
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		<title>By: inciquay</title>
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		<dc:creator>inciquay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF is wrong with Black man in Canada? I was enraged reading the account of Professor Ngugi wa Thiong’o and have already sent my own letter of complaint to the Hotel Vitale regardless of their half-hearted apologies. What has bothered me even more is how a grown-assed Black man cannot see the obvious racial overtone from the hotel by them asking the professor to leave. Please do not begin to think that we are all as naive and stupid as this idiot. Most of us those of us north of the border are keenly aware that racism is alive and well here too. It&#039;s a shame that some people insist on denying it. This was an insulting act of prejudice that cannot and will not be tolerated.

-Intolerant Black woman in Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF is wrong with Black man in Canada? I was enraged reading the account of Professor Ngugi wa Thiong’o and have already sent my own letter of complaint to the Hotel Vitale regardless of their half-hearted apologies. What has bothered me even more is how a grown-assed Black man cannot see the obvious racial overtone from the hotel by them asking the professor to leave. Please do not begin to think that we are all as naive and stupid as this idiot. Most of us those of us north of the border are keenly aware that racism is alive and well here too. It&#8217;s a shame that some people insist on denying it. This was an insulting act of prejudice that cannot and will not be tolerated.</p>
<p>-Intolerant Black woman in Canada</p>
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		<title>By: mind-mart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mind-mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: black man in canada

nice try but you didn&#039;t &#039;pass&#039;</description>
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<p>nice try but you didn&#8217;t &#8216;pass&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: ogunsiron</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2006/11/you_are_a_black_man_-_you_have_to_leave.html#comment-4946</link>
		<dc:creator>ogunsiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will write to those hotel owners and wish them well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will write to those hotel owners and wish them well.</p>
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		<title>By: ogunsiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ogunsiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the comments, it seems quite simple to me after all :

Everything about the prof&#039;s looks and demeanor was very uncharacteristic of a guest at that hotel. 

I started reading all this thinking that a sharply dressed, or just plain normally dressed black man was simply told to get out, just becauswe he was black. It turns out that the prof looks like a 60s radical and that he had a mess around him. It turns out that he may have looked just like a homeless guy . 
Why the hell then wouldn&#039;t the employee think that he&#039;s not a guest ? Has it occured to you that maybe the employee has dealt with similar situations before ? That certainly sounds like it to me because there&#039;s no way that the employee was simply kicking out &quot;a black man &quot;. Are you guys going to tell me that no black people ( of course most likely business people ) ever stay  at that place ? 
The hotel owner&#039;s apology is QUITE convincing to me. A white ( I assume ) guy who has black children, donates a lot of his time to black causes and has a black wife is almost certainly NOT a racist, at least the way normal people understand the word. Of course when one is a  &quot;people of color radical&quot; every white person is, by definitiopn, racist, if not plain evil.  
You guys remind me of what John McWhorter was talking about in his latest book: 
Black people who are **addicted ** to outrage and who need, at all cost, to find &quot;racists&quot; to vent their outrage at. It doesn&#039;t matter is the guy has a black family , he&#039;s still an eeevil white priviledged racist and he&#039;s gotta go down! 
In the end , what I&#039;ve read about this incident doesn&#039;t scream racism at all, at least the way the dictionaries and the population at large define that word.

- black man in canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the comments, it seems quite simple to me after all :</p>
<p>Everything about the prof&#8217;s looks and demeanor was very uncharacteristic of a guest at that hotel. </p>
<p>I started reading all this thinking that a sharply dressed, or just plain normally dressed black man was simply told to get out, just becauswe he was black. It turns out that the prof looks like a 60s radical and that he had a mess around him. It turns out that he may have looked just like a homeless guy .<br />
Why the hell then wouldn&#8217;t the employee think that he&#8217;s not a guest ? Has it occured to you that maybe the employee has dealt with similar situations before ? That certainly sounds like it to me because there&#8217;s no way that the employee was simply kicking out &#8220;a black man &#8220;. Are you guys going to tell me that no black people ( of course most likely business people ) ever stay  at that place ?<br />
The hotel owner&#8217;s apology is QUITE convincing to me. A white ( I assume ) guy who has black children, donates a lot of his time to black causes and has a black wife is almost certainly NOT a racist, at least the way normal people understand the word. Of course when one is a  &#8220;people of color radical&#8221; every white person is, by definitiopn, racist, if not plain evil.<br />
You guys remind me of what John McWhorter was talking about in his latest book:<br />
Black people who are **addicted ** to outrage and who need, at all cost, to find &#8220;racists&#8221; to vent their outrage at. It doesn&#8217;t matter is the guy has a black family , he&#8217;s still an eeevil white priviledged racist and he&#8217;s gotta go down!<br />
In the end , what I&#8217;ve read about this incident doesn&#8217;t scream racism at all, at least the way the dictionaries and the population at large define that word.</p>
<p>- black man in canada</p>
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		<title>By: wde</title>
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		<dc:creator>wde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youre bashing on the hotel. you guys cant call this case racism because it is one of the most respected and highest class hotels in the city of san francisco. Because of it&#039;s high class, they can&#039;t afford to have many disturbances. according to a family member who is a supervisor in the housekeeping dept., the area around the man was a mess. there were newspapers on the floor etc. I think its legitimate to think - if in fact he is a tad unkempt - to ask him to leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youre bashing on the hotel. you guys cant call this case racism because it is one of the most respected and highest class hotels in the city of san francisco. Because of it&#8217;s high class, they can&#8217;t afford to have many disturbances. according to a family member who is a supervisor in the housekeeping dept., the area around the man was a mess. there were newspapers on the floor etc. I think its legitimate to think &#8211; if in fact he is a tad unkempt &#8211; to ask him to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: sikolio</title>
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		<dc:creator>sikolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US is still full of racism almost everywhere. Each state has its style, and the only difference is that there are those who play the game more subtly than others. The hotel owners comments tell it all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US is still full of racism almost everywhere. Each state has its style, and the only difference is that there are those who play the game more subtly than others. The hotel owners comments tell it all!</p>
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		<title>By: Keola</title>
		<link>http://www.blacklooks.org/2006/11/you_are_a_black_man_-_you_have_to_leave.html#comment-4734</link>
		<dc:creator>Keola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a letter from one of the hoteliers in response to comment #37
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Dear XX,
 
Yes, we are very troubled that an alleged employee made these comments.  We are doing our own investigation because these sentiments are diametrically opposed to the kind of workplace we believe we have created at that hotel.  Thank you for pointing this out although we were already in process to learn more about it.  You have my assurance that we are sincerely moving forward with anti-racism training for all of the hotel staff.

Best,

Chip Conley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a letter from one of the hoteliers in response to comment #37<br />
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<p>Dear XX,</p>
<p>Yes, we are very troubled that an alleged employee made these comments.  We are doing our own investigation because these sentiments are diametrically opposed to the kind of workplace we believe we have created at that hotel.  Thank you for pointing this out although we were already in process to learn more about it.  You have my assurance that we are sincerely moving forward with anti-racism training for all of the hotel staff.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Chip Conley</p>
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